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bigdan Moderator
Joined: 1 Feb 2005 Posts: 113 Articles created: 9 Location: Scone, New South Wales
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#1
Posted on: 13 February 2005 21:06:00 UTC
I'll kick things off...How does someone get started in capping vintage Aussie stuff from a common VCR. What's the
best brand(s) of capture card to get stuff from? What are the specs for a bare minimum
system to cap stuff from?I'm looking for a new computer, and I'll be looking to make sure it will be able to
get some caps.
__________ From Big Dan
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jpaterson Site Admin
Joined: 1 Feb 2005 Posts: 24 Articles created: 0 Location: at the tape machine
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#2
Posted on: 14 February 2005 15:08:00 UTC
my reccomendation would be to go for the winfast range of tv/capture cards, you can
capture in most formats from it and it stands up well to damaged tape or signals where
the pulse track is not very stable.I used to use the matrox g400-tv card but found it to be poor for capturing from old tapes
due to the fact any time the sync was interrupted it would stop capture and tell me i was
recording from a macrovision protected source!
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eljanna ContributorJoined: 1 Feb 2005 Posts: 10 Articles created: 1 Location: Western Victoria
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#3
Posted on: 15 February 2005 21:14:00 UTC
What is the best way of getting video and audio in sync ?
I have no problems when its a short capture.like a station id.but when I try to capture a
move or hour long show the audio is always out of sync.
I have no problems if i encode in mpeg 1,but anything else is a problem.
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tbozic Site Admin
Joined: 1 Feb 2005 Posts: 201 Articles created: 123 Location: 150?52.544'E 33?52.892'S
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#4
Posted on: 18 February 2005 11:49:00 UTC
eljanna wrote:
What is the best way of getting video and audio in sync ?
I have no problems when its a short capture.like a station id.but when I try to capture a
move or hour long show the audio is always out of sync.
I have no problems if i encode in mpeg 1,but anything else is a problem.
Dropped frames are, I guess, a fact of life when capturing from analogue sources. Over a
short timescale, you probably won't notice anything amiss, but capture something over a
long period and the differences in audio and video would be noticeable.Probably the best strategy would be to capture the movie in small, logical chapters. By
having only a few dropped frames per chapter, the overall audio/video would only be very
slightly, not markedly, out of sync.There will likely to be, due to the sheer nature of analogue media, major dropouts on
the tape - if you can avoid capturing these dropouts, i.e. it won't affect the
continuity of the movie, then do not capture them....at least that's what I think, I could be wrong...
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eljanna ContributorJoined: 1 Feb 2005 Posts: 10 Articles created: 1 Location: Western Victoria
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#5
Posted on: 18 February 2005 11:57:00 UTC
thanks for that info Tom,I will give it a go and let you know how it turns out.
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tbozic Site Admin
Joined: 1 Feb 2005 Posts: 201 Articles created: 123 Location: 150?52.544'E 33?52.892'S
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#6
Posted on: 26 February 2005 14:29:00 UTC
eljanna wrote:
thanks for that info Tom,I will give it a go and let you know how it turns out.
So....Robert....have you proven my theory yet?
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eljanna ContributorJoined: 1 Feb 2005 Posts: 10 Articles created: 1 Location: Western Victoria
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#7
Posted on: 4 March 2005 16:41:00 UTC
Tom.
You are correct,by recording small amounts,it limits the dropouts and keeps the audio in
sync.However even after about 5 min you notice the audio starting to go out of syncRobert
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tbozic Site Admin
Joined: 1 Feb 2005 Posts: 201 Articles created: 123 Location: 150?52.544'E 33?52.892'S
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#8
Posted on: 14 July 2006 13:45:17 UTC
tbozic wrote:
Dropped frames are, I guess, a fact of life when capturing from analogue sources. Over a
short timescale, you probably won't notice anything amiss, but capture something over a
long period and the differences in audio and video would be noticeable.
Having had a bit more experience with my analogue capture card, I would say that the best
strategy to avoid dropped frames is to make sure you have plenty of RAM. You could go
buy some more if you want, but the cheapest strategy would be to simply shut down all
unnecessary programs and processes before capturing. The last thing you want to happen
is for swap space on your hard-disk to be utilised - the poor thing's busy as it is trying
to write the captured data (and encoding it) to disk.Make sure that your capturing program also has the ability to display statistics while
it's capturing (the program that I use while running Windows,
Virtual VCR does this) - that way, you can easily
pick out where all of the major instances of dropped frames occur.If - after you've ensured you've got enough RAM (you probably could capture with as little
as 128MB, but I would recommend at least 1GB - especially if you are capturing at a
resolution of 720x576 pixels) and maybe you've given your disk a bit of a 'de-fragment'
(should you be using a filesystem that's prone to fragmentation, such as FAT) - you're
getting a severe number of frames being dropped within a short timeperiod (e.g. more than
13 frames within a second while capturing PAL video at 25 frames per second), my strategy
would be to stop capturing the video as is, rewind the tape, then re-capture the affected
part and record the audio separately as well. This way, you'll have a few options in
attempting to resync the audio and video:
- Using a video-editing program, add a few freeze frames from the video, or;
- Using an audio-editing program, either lengthen (adding silence or prolonging a
sound) or shorten the audio track.
Then, with your video-editing program, re-marry the edited audio and video, then weave
the clip back into the main captured video.
__________ To judiciously use split infinitives is fine by me...
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IanGorton User
Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 13 Articles created: 0 Location: Newcastle NSW
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#9
Posted on: 17 September 2007 06:55:23 UTC
I was wondering this myself cuz I have come across some stuff that'd be worth posting. Ads
Show on NBN3 c1982
__________ Pre Aggrigation. When Free TV was still good.
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Yogiew2 Contributor
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 11 Articles created: 0 Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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#10
Posted on: 12 February 2008 04:43:36 UTC
Hello allI do video capturing and I started out with one of though $120 USB capture devices from Harvey Norman, but it was crap.I had to upgrade my computer for study and I wanted to do video editing as well, so I boughta Intel iMac and Final Cut express 3.5.I use a Canopus Advc-300 to Capture the video and firewire into my mac and it is brilliant.It can go from Video to Video, Computer to Video, Video to Computer and Computer to Computer.It has RCA and S-Video ports and Firewire and few other plugs.The video come out better then the original and the picture is stabilised and cleaned up, as it goes though the device.I hope this will help someone, I just thought I would leave my input.Bye All
__________ Love You Brisbane, Darwin, Perth and Queensland.
Hello Adelaide, Melbourne, Perth and Tasmania.
We with you on Channel 7.
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